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Are you prepared to meet the challenges and risks of being a bank director? Bank directors have been the fall guys in past recessions. The American Association of Bank Directors has been your advocate since 1989 and our podcast, hosted by AABD President David Baris, is designed to keep you well informed to help protect both you and your bank.
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Wednesday Nov 02, 2022
Planning for a Sale of Your Bank | Calling All Bank Directors Ep. 48
Wednesday Nov 02, 2022
Wednesday Nov 02, 2022
In this episode, David Baris is joined by Dave Martin to discuss the factors that influence banks to sell, and how the selling bank can plan to maximize its appeal to a buyer and the consideration paid in the transaction.
Dave details the essential role that the buyer/seller ratio, which considers the number of potential buyers that exist in the bank’s market, plays in the likelihood that a bank can be sold. He also explains the practical steps that a bank can take to improve its attractiveness and value to a buyer.
Dave Martin advises banks on whether it is an opportune time to sell the institution and how to do it. With Mellon and several investment firms, he has represented banks in numerous bank mergers and acquisitions.
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Thanks to our guest, Dave Martin.
Calling All Bank Directors is the podcast of the American Association of Bank Directors. AABD has been your advocate since 1989 and our podcast, hosted by AABD President David Baris, is designed to keep you well informed to help protect both you and your bank.
Questions? Contact dbaris@aabd.org.

Thursday Sep 15, 2022
Thursday Sep 15, 2022
In this episode of Calling All Bank Directors, Women2Boards Founder and CEO Nancy Sheppard addresses how to go about finding great bank directors.
She identifies specific strategies to tap into a variety of talented and qualified people from a variety of backgrounds, including women, ethnic minorities, and those outside the community or communities served by the bank.
Prior to founding Women2Boards, Nancy served for over 20 years as CEO of Western Independent Bankers (now the Western Bankers Association).
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Thanks to our guest, Nancy Sheppard: https://women2boards.com/
Calling All Bank Directors is the podcast of the American Association of Bank Directors. AABD has been your advocate since 1989 and our podcast, hosted by AABD President David Baris, is designed to keep you well informed to help protect both you and your bank.
Questions? Contact dbaris@aabd.org.

Wednesday Jul 06, 2022
Wednesday Jul 06, 2022
In this episode, host and AABD President David Baris is joined by Dr. Ken Thomas, Founder and CEO of Community Development Fund Advisors, to address how proposed CRA regulations, once finalized, can impact your bank. A lot depends on the size of your bank. Banks with assets of $600 million or more will be facing an additional measure of CRA performance (retail lending) and those over $10 billion will have additional challenges.
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Ken is a leading expert and author of the seminal work on CRA. He taught banking and monetary economics at Wharton for 42 years. He is the Chair of the Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee of a community bank.
Community Development Fund Advisors manages the Community Development Fund, which enables banks to invest in CRA-qualified investments.
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Thanks to our guest, Dr. Ken Thomas: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ken-thomas-2371a8125/
Calling All Bank Directors is the podcast of the American Association of Bank Directors. AABD has been your advocate since 1989 and our podcast, hosted by AABD President David Baris, is designed to keep you well informed to help protect both you and your bank.
Questions? Contact dbaris@aabd.org.

Thursday May 12, 2022
Bank Merger Trends and Bank Capital Needs | Calling All Bank Directors Ep. 45
Thursday May 12, 2022
Thursday May 12, 2022
In this episode, host David Baris is joined by Bill Boyan, a managing director at Piper Sandler, to address recent trends in bank mergers – including valuations, forms of consideration (stock, cash or a combination), and factors influencing their direction. Bill will also discuss how banks can make themselves more valuable and attractive to acquirers, and anticipated capital needs and the movement from sub debt to equity.
Bill has managed numerous bank mergers and capital raises in his long and successful career. A presentation to accompany this discussion is available here: https://bit.ly/3Pkvxuw
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Thanks to our guest, Bill Boyan: https://www.pipersandler.com/2col.aspx?id=5777
Calling All Bank Directors is the podcast of the American Association of Bank Directors. AABD has been your advocate since 1989 and our podcast, hosted by AABD President David Baris, is designed to keep you well informed to help protect both you and your bank.
Questions? Contact dbaris@aabd.org.

Monday Apr 25, 2022
Misalignment of Incentive Compensation | Calling All Bank Directors Ep. 44
Monday Apr 25, 2022
Monday Apr 25, 2022
In this episode, host and AABD President David Baris is joined by Jeff Marsico, president and founding shareholder of the Kafafian Group, to address how the common misalignment of executive incentive compensation with the compensation of other bank employees can be injurious to banks' profit goals.
For example, if a loan officer is rewarded for volume and not for the profitability of the loan portfolio, that might lead the officer to sacrifice profitability for volume and act inconsistent with the bank’s efforts to reach ROE goals.
As president and a founding shareholder of the Kafafian Group, Jeff oversees and works on all lines of the banking business, with a focus on strategy, profitability, and financial advisory. He has analyzed and facilitated hundreds of strategy development engagements for community financial institutions.
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Thanks to our guest, Jeff Marsico: https://kafafiangroup.com/team/jeffrey-p-marsico/
Calling All Bank Directors is the podcast of the American Association of Bank Directors. AABD has been your advocate since 1989 and our podcast, hosted by AABD President David Baris, is designed to keep you well informed to help protect both you and your bank.
Questions? Contact dbaris@aabd.org.

Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
Inflation and How to Prepare for It | Calling All Bank Directors Ep. 43
Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
In this episode, host and AABD President David Baris is joined by Ethan Heisler, who will address the Fed’s timetable on rate hikes and quantitative tightening, the impact of the Fed draining reserves on bank deposit growth and strategies to address it, and questions that bank directors should be asking management on strategy and technology spending.
Ethan is the Senior Director for Strategy at Kroll Bond Rating Agency. He is the Editor of the Bank Treasury Newsletter, a monthly publication directed to financial institutions at the Treasury level. He was a Managing Director in Fixed Income Sales and headed up Citi’s Bank Treasury Resource Group. Before that, he was the Staff Director of Bank Analysis at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
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Thanks to our guest, Ethan Heisler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethan-heisler-58b370119/
Calling All Bank Directors is the podcast of the American Association of Bank Directors. AABD has been your advocate since 1989 and our podcast, hosted by AABD President David Baris, is designed to keep you well informed to help protect both you and your bank.
Questions? Contact dbaris@aabd.org.

Monday Jan 10, 2022
Monday Jan 10, 2022
In this episode, Tom Vartanian talks with host David Baris about how bank boards of directors can predict when the next financial crisis is coming, what bank boards can do to prepare for the risks of a financial crisis, and how they can avoid risks created by regulation.
Tom is the former Executive Director and Professor of Law, Program on Financial Regulation, at GMU’s Antonin Scalia Law School, a partner at both Dechert and Fried Frank, and General Counsel to the FHLBB and FSLIC. He currently is a partner at the law firm of Vartanian & Ledig.
He is the author of 200 Years of American Financial Panics: Crashes, Recessions, Depressions and the Technology that will Change it All.
This is the second part of our financial crises discussion with Tom.
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Thanks to our guest, Tom Vartanian: http://www.vllawfirm.com/
Calling All Bank Directors is the podcast of the American Association of Bank Directors. AABD has been your advocate since 1989 and our podcast, hosted by AABD President David Baris, is designed to keep you well informed to help protect both you and your bank.
Questions? Contact dbaris@aabd.org.
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This is the second of two discussions with Tom.

Monday Nov 22, 2021
Monday Nov 22, 2021
In this episode, Tom Vartanian will address why the U.S. has experienced many more financial crises than most other developed countries and the role of government in causing or contributing to those events. He will also discuss what may cause the next financial crisis.
Tom is the former Executive Director and Professor of Law, Program on Financial Regulation, at GMU’s Antonin Scalia Law School, a partner at both Dechert and Fried Frank, and General Counsel to the FHLBB and FSLIC. He currently is a partner at the law firm of Vartanian & Ledig.
He is the author of 200 Years of American Financial Panics: Crashes, Recessions, Depressions and the Technology that will Change it All.
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Thanks to our guest, Tom Vartanian: http://www.vllawfirm.com/
Calling All Bank Directors is the podcast of the American Association of Bank Directors. AABD has been your advocate since 1989 and our podcast, hosted by AABD President David Baris, is designed to keep you well informed to help protect both you and your bank.
Questions? Contact dbaris@aabd.org.

Monday Nov 01, 2021
Monday Nov 01, 2021
In this episode, host and AABD President David Baris is joined by Michael Glotz, co-founder and CEO of Strategic Risk Advisors, to advise bank boards of directors on key ERM questions such as:
- Does your bank have an ERM policy?
- Does that policy contain a risk framework (and what are the components of that framework)?
- Does the framework define responsibilities for the three lines of defense?
- Are management committee responsibilities defined to oversee identified risks?
- Has the board established a framework in which to oversee the numerous risks facing your institution?
- And more
Michael will also address the importance of management frequently identifying the main risks facing the bank for the benefit of management and the board, how management is addressing those risks, reporting on key strategic initiatives, and how management is addressing the risks to achieving those initiatives.
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Thanks to our guest, Michael Glotz: https://www.srarisk.com/people/michael-glotz
Calling All Bank Directors is the podcast of the American Association of Bank Directors. AABD has been your advocate since 1989 and our podcast, hosted by AABD President David Baris, is designed to keep you well informed to help protect both you and your bank.
Questions? Contact dbaris@aabd.org.

Monday Oct 25, 2021
Challenger Core Systems, Part 2 | Calling All Bank Directors Ep. 39
Monday Oct 25, 2021
Monday Oct 25, 2021
In this episode, banking and corporate attorney Dub Sutherland will discuss how to plan for and negotiate agreements involving core challenger systems as an alternative or adjunct to the Old Guard core systems, and the role of your board of directors.
Dub is a partner at Kennedy Sutherland and former community bank CEO. As an advisor to community banks, he guides his clients in the implementation of new business models and identification of new technologies to maintain relevancy in a rapidly changing environment.
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Thanks to our guest, Dub Sutherland: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dub-sutherland-1552686/
Calling All Bank Directors is the podcast of the American Association of Bank Directors. AABD has been your advocate since 1989 and our podcast, hosted by AABD President David Baris, is designed to keep you well informed to help protect both you and your bank.
Questions? Contact dbaris@aabd.org.